1 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:15,829 [Music] 2 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:17,750 i often wonder about the nature of 3 00:00:20,470 --> 00:00:18,640 reality 4 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:20,480 about our relationship to the creative 5 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:22,640 force that forged the particles of our 6 00:00:26,710 --> 00:00:24,560 stars and intertwined them with the 7 00:00:29,189 --> 00:00:26,720 molecules of our bodies 8 00:00:30,870 --> 00:00:29,199 who are we and where are we actually 9 00:00:32,069 --> 00:00:30,880 sitting within the architecture of our 10 00:00:34,709 --> 00:00:32,079 universe 11 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:34,719 are we alone or is the answer simply 12 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:37,520 stranger than we can think 13 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:40,640 my name is jeremy corbell i seek to 14 00:00:44,950 --> 00:00:42,879 weaponize your curiosity 15 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:44,960 and if you're ready to suspend your own 16 00:00:56,830 --> 00:00:46,559 prejudice 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:09,940 beliefs 18 00:01:09,950 --> 00:01:17,429 [Music] 19 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:20,149 i wanted to bring every single mode and 20 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:20,720 zoom 21 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:23,200 that the flare is capable of back to the 22 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:24,960 carrier so we could analyze this thing 23 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:26,880 because to go from 24 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:29,200 whatever its airspeed was to something 25 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:30,720 that's just impossible 26 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:33,360 by any physical standard instantaneous 27 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:34,799 acceleration that would 28 00:01:39,109 --> 00:01:37,680 crush a pilot and just from a structural 29 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:39,119 engineering standpoint 30 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:40,640 it would just rip wings right off the 31 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:42,560 aircraft it's something i i can't 32 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:43,200 describe 33 00:01:51,749 --> 00:01:50,469 that's the voice of lieutenant commander 34 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:51,759 chad underwood 35 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:54,720 a badass navy weapon systems officer 36 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:55,759 with vfa 37 00:02:00,630 --> 00:01:59,680 41 in the fa-18 super hornet with the 38 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:00,640 legendary 39 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:04,640 black aces underwood's testimony 40 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:06,880 represents the first time in history 41 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:09,920 a military whizzo filmed the ufo during 42 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:12,239 active operations where the encounter 43 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:12,959 footage 44 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:15,040 has been confirmed directly by the 45 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:16,560 united states government 46 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:19,680 as being actual actual film 47 00:02:24,309 --> 00:02:22,319 footage of an advanced aerospace vehicle 48 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:24,319 of unknown origin 49 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:28,160 a real ufo underwood's account and 50 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:28,720 footage 51 00:02:33,110 --> 00:02:30,720 also represents independent and 52 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,120 corroborating evidence to accompany 53 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:35,599 the experience of commander david fravor 54 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:38,480 the man who engaged a tic-tac-shaped ufo 55 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:45,110 the unidentified craft they observed and 56 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:46,480 engaged that day 57 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:49,040 was able to outpace and out maneuver our 58 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:50,560 nation's most advanced 59 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:53,920 warplanes it did in fact zoom 60 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:56,400 off to the left of underwood's wing and 61 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:58,319 it broke the lock of his at flear 62 00:03:02,869 --> 00:02:59,680 targeting pod 63 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:02,879 which is not an easy thing to do it had 64 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:05,440 no typical aeronautics or aerospace 65 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:06,959 propulsion signatures 66 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:10,560 no tail no wings no exhaust plumes 67 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:13,599 and it was also able to offensively jam 68 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:17,519 our pilot's radar and weapon systems 69 00:03:20,790 --> 00:03:19,360 under the circumstances this is 70 00:03:22,149 --> 00:03:20,800 considered an act of war 71 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,159 by the united states department of 72 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:24,560 defense and typically 73 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:27,840 there are consequences however 74 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,680 nothing about lieutenant commander 75 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:31,519 underwood's and commander fraber's 76 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:32,799 experiences 77 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:36,799 were typical what you're about to hear 78 00:03:43,350 --> 00:03:40,480 is important it has historic value 79 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:43,360 it's evidence of advanced and unknown 80 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:44,720 aerospace vehicles 81 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:47,599 operating in our restricted airspace 82 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:49,120 with impunity 83 00:03:55,589 --> 00:03:52,159 displaying instantaneous acceleration 84 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:55,599 and impossible speeds technology 85 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:59,680 we simply do not have if this is not a 86 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:01,439 national security issue 87 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:04,560 i don't know what is certainly 88 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:07,680 this is an existential conundrum 89 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:10,319 and it's time we face the ufo reality 90 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:11,439 head on 91 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:14,799 whatever it might represent but let's 92 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:16,239 hear what lieutenant commander 93 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:19,680 underwood has to say about it after all 94 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:21,450 he is the person that filmed it 95 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:28,469 what's your name and what was your title 96 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:30,320 and role in 2004 97 00:04:33,909 --> 00:04:32,160 my name is chad underwood my call sign 98 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:33,919 is nuts i was 99 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:37,840 on uss nimitz in november of 2004. 100 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:40,160 i was with the black aces of bfa41 101 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:40,880 serving under 102 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:43,919 dave's sex favor i filmed the tic tac 103 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:46,080 flair video 104 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:48,080 we're talking peace time operations off 105 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:49,840 the coast of san diego we're not talking 106 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:52,240 in the black sea against russia or the 107 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,600 baltics or anything like that 108 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:55,440 dave's just landed from his flight he's 109 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:57,199 taking his gear off i'm putting my gear 110 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:58,479 on he's like hey man 111 00:05:01,749 --> 00:05:00,160 we saw something out there and i want 112 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:01,759 you to go and investigate it 113 00:05:05,270 --> 00:05:03,680 put your tapes on dave did not have a 114 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:05,280 flea pot on his aircraft and he knew 115 00:05:08,150 --> 00:05:06,479 that i did 116 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:08,160 we were going to go operate in the same 117 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,080 piece of sky that they just came from 118 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:12,080 go launch on the mission go out to do 119 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:14,160 some intercepts hone our skills 120 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:15,600 and then when we got up there you kind 121 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:17,199 of do your checks making sure that all 122 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:17,600 your 123 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:19,520 squawks are all accurate and you're 124 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:20,800 going to report to this 125 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:22,240 cap location and this is where you're 126 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:23,680 going to conduct your portion of the 127 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:24,720 exercise 128 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:26,320 and that's when we got a vector from the 129 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,800 princeton saying hey investigate target 130 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:30,240 on this bearing and range 131 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:31,520 low and behold you get a blip on the 132 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:34,320 radar once i got the flear lock 133 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:36,720 that's not an aircraft the debunkers one 134 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:38,160 of the things is saying is that the tic 135 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:38,479 tac 136 00:05:42,629 --> 00:05:41,440 it's just another plane aircraft have 137 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:42,639 very very specific 138 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:45,120 infrared signatures that show up on your 139 00:05:48,629 --> 00:05:45,919 flear pod 140 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:48,639 you cannot mistake it whether it's a 737 141 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:50,240 another f-18 142 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:53,199 or an enemy aircraft there are key 143 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:53,840 features 144 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:56,639 that on that infrared pod that identify 145 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,880 it 146 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,039 as an aircraft at this point i'm ruling 147 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,440 out what i what i know it's not 148 00:06:04,710 --> 00:06:03,360 i'm looking at it with essentially a six 149 00:06:06,550 --> 00:06:04,720 million dollar camera 150 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:06,560 an infrared camera this is not 151 00:06:10,309 --> 00:06:08,160 conventional aircraft of 152 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:10,319 a us military it's not a civilian 153 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:11,520 airliner 154 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:14,160 it's certainly not a bird it's not a 155 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,520 helicopter 156 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:17,199 i've pretty much seen anything that's 157 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:18,720 either on the surface or 158 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:22,000 in the air i've seen enough to know what 159 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:24,880 things are and what things aren't i'm 160 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:26,000 close enough to the 161 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:28,960 object that i should be able to even 162 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:29,360 tell 163 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:32,080 whether it's a military aircraft versus 164 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:33,680 a civilian aircraft i should be able to 165 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:35,520 tell that by the features that you would 166 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:37,199 normally and typically see 167 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:40,400 there should be no doubt any aircraft of 168 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,199 any type 169 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:43,680 whether we're talking a helicopter or a 170 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:45,360 fixed-wing aircraft of a fighter or 171 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:46,400 commercial 172 00:06:49,589 --> 00:06:48,000 you should be able to see a tail you 173 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:49,599 should be able to see wings you should 174 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:51,120 see the exhaust point those should be 175 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:52,720 very very obvious 176 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:54,800 on a flear pod the infrared portion of 177 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:56,720 that is just looking for heat contrast 178 00:07:00,070 --> 00:06:57,440 between 179 00:07:00,469 --> 00:07:00,080 a target and its background i was not 180 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:00,479 seeing 181 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:02,560 any of those features the biggest 182 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:03,599 giveaway is 183 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:05,360 the exhaust point because that's just 184 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:07,520 nothing but heat and so once i saw it on 185 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,120 the flear pod i was like 186 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:11,759 okay this is not a conventional aircraft 187 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:14,080 at the range you were from the tic tac 188 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:17,360 ufo vehicle you should have been able to 189 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:18,000 see 190 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,880 rotors tail wings plumes and exhaust 191 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:22,319 you're not seeing that 192 00:07:26,150 --> 00:07:25,599 none of it the tic tac ufo had none of 193 00:07:31,990 --> 00:07:26,160 that 194 00:07:33,589 --> 00:07:32,000 it's just featureless it's just this 195 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:33,599 elongated 196 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:37,120 thing there's no distinguishing feature 197 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:37,759 that says 198 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:40,240 this is an aircraft i have no idea what 199 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:42,400 this thing is 200 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,960 this tic tac ufo why is this different 201 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:46,720 than anything you've seen before 202 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:48,960 when you take a radar lock on something 203 00:07:51,749 --> 00:07:50,479 i'm going to see your airspeed i'm going 204 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:51,759 to see your altitude i'm going to see 205 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:52,879 your heading i'm going to see your 206 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:53,680 aspect 207 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:56,160 i'm going to see all of that on my radar 208 00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:57,680 every bit of information that 209 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:59,680 that radar can possibly give me i'm 210 00:08:01,909 --> 00:08:00,800 going to know 211 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:01,919 and i'm going to have all that 212 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:03,680 situational awareness right there in 213 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:04,240 front of me 214 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:06,400 and it's happening real time there's no 215 00:08:10,309 --> 00:08:07,520 latency there's no 216 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:10,319 delays in scanning or anything like that 217 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:11,599 what was different about 218 00:08:16,469 --> 00:08:14,720 this was as soon as i took that lock the 219 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:16,479 track started doing all sorts of just 220 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:17,919 little things that are not 221 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:20,800 normal the heading was erratic it should 222 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:22,879 be able to tell me your air speed 223 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:25,280 and also your mach number so it should 224 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,000 say like 225 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:28,400 point eight mach for example so you know 226 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:29,840 eighty percent the speed of sound 227 00:08:33,269 --> 00:08:31,840 it should say that it was jumping all 228 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:33,279 over the place it was like point eight 229 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,479 point four point two 230 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:36,719 point one point nine and it's just it's 231 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:39,039 just like my radar can't hack it 232 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:41,519 and in all instances it should be able 233 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:42,880 to hack that 234 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:44,800 and then i was also receiving what 235 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:46,320 they're called strobe lines and they 236 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:47,360 just basically look like 237 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:50,640 lines on your radar that are 238 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,959 indications that you're being jammed so 239 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:54,560 that tic tac jamming us 240 00:08:58,389 --> 00:08:56,880 would be considered an act of war it's 241 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:58,399 not that i'm going to go shoot down an 242 00:09:01,509 --> 00:08:59,920 aircraft because of jamming me but i'm 243 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:01,519 going to report back to my boss that is 244 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:03,360 jamming me and i've got proof of it 245 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,120 and that'll make its way to the pentagon 246 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:07,200 it has consequences he was offensively 247 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:08,000 jamming us 248 00:09:11,829 --> 00:09:09,760 just outside international waters and 249 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:11,839 peacetime operations it's an act of war 250 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:13,040 and we're going to go out there and make 251 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:15,040 you pay for that it does have 252 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:16,160 consequences 253 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:18,000 however that plays itself out and that's 254 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:19,920 where i was like okay this is 255 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:22,800 this is something different i was like 256 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:24,560 okay i've got a flare lock 257 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:26,240 flare is just giving me optical and 258 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:27,839 infrared information they can't 259 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:29,120 optically jam me 260 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:30,800 so i went to the flear pod and that's 261 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:32,320 where i started focusing 262 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,640 90 of my effort mainly i'm just trying 263 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:36,399 to get all this [\h__\h] on tape 264 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:39,600 bring back as much video evidence to 265 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:41,760 our intelligence folks say well why 266 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:43,120 didn't you go to 267 00:09:46,870 --> 00:09:44,640 narrow field of view why didn't you go 268 00:09:48,949 --> 00:09:46,880 to super narrow why didn't you 269 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:48,959 go to eu why did you go to tv mode 270 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:50,320 versus like i didn't want 271 00:09:53,829 --> 00:09:52,080 any of those questions to be asked to me 272 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:53,839 when i went to the intelligence center 273 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:55,839 so i started zooming in that's where you 274 00:09:58,870 --> 00:09:57,839 see on the clear video like changing 275 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:58,880 polarity 276 00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:00,240 all of a sudden you see the whole screen 277 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:02,079 go like all white and then 278 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:04,320 the tic tac is black i reverse the 279 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:05,279 polarity so 280 00:10:09,269 --> 00:10:07,440 the background is black and tic tac is 281 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:09,279 white i'm zooming in 282 00:10:12,870 --> 00:10:11,360 i'm that's why i'm going through all 283 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:12,880 those different modes 284 00:10:17,590 --> 00:10:15,680 is to just try to bring back as much 285 00:10:19,990 --> 00:10:17,600 video evidence to 286 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:20,000 our intelligence folks i wanted to bring 287 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:21,120 every single 288 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:23,680 mode and zoom that the flare is capable 289 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:24,480 of 290 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:26,240 back to the carrier so we could analyze 291 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:27,760 this thing because 292 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:30,079 i'm not going to solve this problem in 293 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:31,440 real time 294 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:34,560 debunkers say when you're filming it 295 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:35,680 only appears 296 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:37,920 to move left but in fact it was you 297 00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:39,440 banking your craft 298 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:40,800 aircraft was straight and level at that 299 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:42,480 point if you look at the flare pod 300 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:44,160 there's no change in heading or altitude 301 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:44,959 or airspeed 302 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:46,480 our aircraft was straight level the 303 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:49,440 entire time none of those things change 304 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:51,360 i'm not maneuvering the aircraft in a 305 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:52,640 manner in which 306 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,800 in those circumstances would cause the 307 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:56,720 flare to drop track 308 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:00,160 that did not happen i was at a very 309 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:01,200 benign 310 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:04,640 heading airspeed altitude and bank angle 311 00:11:07,990 --> 00:11:07,440 that the flear will not drop that track 312 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:08,000 when the 313 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:10,480 aircraft zips off to the left and you 314 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:12,320 see the two bars that were 315 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:14,320 on either side of the tic tac you'll see 316 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:16,000 they'll try to like reacquire 317 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:17,680 when you see those two bars kind of 318 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:19,600 widen that means it's trying to like 319 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:22,480 open up its eyes wider to find you again 320 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:23,680 and then get back to 321 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:26,000 an auto track by that point the tic tac 322 00:11:28,150 --> 00:11:27,600 is already way off the left side of my 323 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:28,160 scope and 324 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:30,880 basically it's gone they also say that 325 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:32,079 there was a two time 326 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:34,720 zoom right at that moment when the tic 327 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:35,760 tac ufo 328 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:38,240 appears to shoot off to the left so it's 329 00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:40,160 an exaggerated speed 330 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:42,399 did you lose track on it what what makes 331 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:43,200 it go left 332 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:45,200 when you go from one to two x or 333 00:11:47,509 --> 00:11:46,640 something like that one to two times 334 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:47,519 zoom 335 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:49,920 you're not dropping the track and trying 336 00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:52,079 to reacquire it in two times zoom 337 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:54,399 at no point will it drop track think 338 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:55,760 about it like you're looking at your 339 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,800 iphone from 340 00:12:00,790 --> 00:11:58,560 12 inches away and all of a sudden you 341 00:12:01,509 --> 00:12:00,800 just put it in six inches away from your 342 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:01,519 face 343 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:02,880 that's the only difference you're not 344 00:12:05,910 --> 00:12:04,399 dropping that lock all you're doing is 345 00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:05,920 basically just trying to get a closer 346 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:07,200 look at it 347 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:09,120 i go through all the zoom features and 348 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:11,040 i'm not dropping its track 349 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,200 the track is there the entire time it 350 00:12:18,790 --> 00:12:16,160 broke my lock by zooming off to the left 351 00:12:19,269 --> 00:12:18,800 so you're telling me the tic tac ufo 352 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:19,279 shot 353 00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:21,200 off to the left the targeting pod lost 354 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:24,560 track because it moved yeah the flare 355 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:26,720 pod is it's a weapon system so it's 356 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:29,920 made and designed and engineered for 357 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:32,320 aggressive maneuvering and still be able 358 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:34,639 to maintain stability 359 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:35,760 on whatever it is that you've got 360 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:37,680 acquired the tic-tac-shot off to your 361 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,560 left 362 00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:40,320 yeah yeah with instantaneous 363 00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:42,079 acceleration 364 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:43,760 if it were just to kind of veer off to 365 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:44,880 the left the flare would be able to 366 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:46,800 track that with no problem 367 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:49,279 but it it shot off at an instant 368 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:50,160 acceleration 369 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:53,519 that the fear just is not engineered to 370 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:55,120 be able to hack i guess 371 00:12:58,629 --> 00:12:57,920 so what kind of aggressive forces does 372 00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:58,639 it take 373 00:13:03,269 --> 00:13:00,959 to drop track anything greater than 374 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:03,279 about 40 to 45 degrees 375 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:06,560 angle of bank and greater than three to 376 00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:06,959 five 377 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:10,320 g's rate of heading change you know 378 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:14,079 we're straight and level the tic tac ufo 379 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:16,160 shot off to the left from a stanza with 380 00:13:22,629 --> 00:13:17,680 instantaneous motion 381 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:24,790 when i say from a standstill the tic tac 382 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:26,160 it's not like it's sitting there in a 383 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:26,800 hover 384 00:13:30,389 --> 00:13:29,519 it's in motion it's moving in some sort 385 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:30,399 of velocity 386 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:33,360 and a vector to go from whatever its 387 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:34,399 airspeed was 388 00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:36,639 at the time to something that's just 389 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:37,519 impossible 390 00:13:41,189 --> 00:13:40,399 by any physical standard is something i 391 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,199 can't describe 392 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:43,440 from a physics based perspective i can't 393 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:44,320 do it 394 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:46,240 things don't just instantaneously 395 00:13:50,389 --> 00:13:47,360 accelerate like that 396 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:50,399 and like what they said even an sr-71 397 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:52,880 it's a mach 3 plus aircraft doesn't just 398 00:13:57,189 --> 00:13:54,040 go from 399 00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:57,199 250 knots to 2000 knots 400 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:59,440 instantaneously that's not how normal 401 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,120 propulsion systems that we 402 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:03,360 know conventional propulsion systems 403 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:04,320 that we know 404 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:06,639 are capable of that's the part that blew 405 00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:07,600 me away 406 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:09,440 both in real time and after the fact i 407 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:11,360 was like what just happened 408 00:14:15,269 --> 00:14:13,920 it just bam just went away you know it 409 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:15,279 just zipped off 410 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,360 instantaneous acceleration that would 411 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,880 crush a pilot 412 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,720 and just from a structural engineering 413 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:22,480 standpoint it would just rip 414 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:24,399 wings right off the aircraft if it 415 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:25,920 indeed had wings 416 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:28,480 what i clearly hear you saying is the 417 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:30,800 object is not an illusion of a two-time 418 00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:31,360 zoom 419 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:34,160 i didn't manually pull off the track of 420 00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:35,440 the weapon systems 421 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:38,639 that the tic tac ufo shot 422 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:42,000 to your left with instantaneous inertia 423 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:44,800 instantaneous acceleration yes that's 424 00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:45,920 profound 425 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,880 yeah that's the part that i took away 426 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:50,000 from the whole experience 427 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:52,320 was that moment where it just zipped off 428 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:53,600 that was my kind of 429 00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,839 weirded out moment i was trying to find 430 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:57,279 it and reacquire and asking the prince 431 00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:58,639 i'm like hey where'd that thing go 432 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:00,320 and there's like you know negative radar 433 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:02,079 contact which means their radar scopes 434 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:03,360 clean as well 435 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,440 my radar's got a certain scan volume and 436 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:06,800 my flare for that matter 437 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:09,120 once it flies out of that field of view 438 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:10,720 let's just call it plus or minus 439 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:13,279 70 degrees of my nose that i'm gonna 440 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:14,639 have to maneuver the aircraft towards 441 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:16,320 the direction that that thing went 442 00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:18,480 and try to reacquire it on my sensors 443 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:20,959 because i don't have 360 degrees worth 444 00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:22,160 of radar scan 445 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:24,320 in my aircraft the princeton does it can 446 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:26,240 look in all directions and figure out 447 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:27,600 where things are and it can give me a 448 00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:29,360 vector say hey just back behind you 449 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,360 so that way i could turn around and get 450 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:32,959 all my centers back in that 451 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:34,800 sector i saw it shoot off to the left 452 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,920 and then i started maneuvering the 453 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:37,040 aircraft to the left and tried to 454 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:37,839 reacquire 455 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:40,959 there was nothing there it wasn't for a 456 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:41,680 lack of effort 457 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:43,120 i was trying to reacquire the thing but 458 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:45,440 that was that was it you were the pilot 459 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:46,639 and you were telling me that the 460 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:48,480 debunkers are wrong 461 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:51,920 yes the debunkers in my experience with 462 00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:52,160 it 463 00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:55,519 evidence that you bring back but 464 00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:57,839 by that point i've had a whole bunch of 465 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:59,600 combat missions i've seen a lot of [\h__\h] 466 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:00,240 i've been 467 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:02,880 shot at i've dropped bombs shot missiles 468 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:03,920 at enemy targets 469 00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:06,480 i know what [\h__\h] looks like in the air 470 00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:07,279 and on the ground 471 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,759 at daytime nighttime this was happening 472 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:11,279 in the mid-afternoon 473 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:14,639 on a very benign peacetime kind of day 474 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:16,480 there's no question that if it was 475 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:17,680 something conventional 476 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:19,360 either from a commercial standpoint or a 477 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:21,040 military standpoint that should have 478 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:21,440 been 479 00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:23,279 a piece of cake and the fact that it 480 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:24,959 wasn't and it was just something i've 481 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:26,079 never seen before 482 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:28,480 and exhibited no conventional flight 483 00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:29,680 characteristics that 484 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:32,720 physics allows us at this point 485 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:34,560 i've ruled out everything that it could 486 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,560 possibly be 487 00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:39,360 and i'm left with i have no [\h__\h] idea 488 00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,199 what this thing was 489 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:43,519 it wasn't any sort of special project 490 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:45,680 because because i got it on video 491 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:48,240 if it was some sort of black project 492 00:16:50,629 --> 00:16:49,440 black meaning some sort of 493 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:50,639 unacknowledged 494 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:53,360 u.s program i would have been debriefed 495 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,480 on it because 496 00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:56,720 i brought that video and i could have 497 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:57,839 gone public with it 498 00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:59,519 and i could have gotten myself in the 499 00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,519 military a big old pickle 500 00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:03,519 if you start to see black projects and 501 00:17:06,549 --> 00:17:05,039 it's happened to me before where i've 502 00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,559 seen something that i shouldn't have 503 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,319 and i've got debrief saying hey this is 504 00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:10,079 a secret unacknowledged 505 00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:12,079 program that you witnessed or you got 506 00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,679 video of you talk to 507 00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,839 a person from some three-letter agency 508 00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:17,120 you signed an nda 509 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:19,760 and you'll never speak of this again 510 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,520 that never happened 511 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:23,360 and if it was some sort of black u.s 512 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:25,120 project i would have been told 513 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,600 not what it is or what it's capable of 514 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:29,200 or whatever the project name is 515 00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:31,280 you have stumbled upon things that are 516 00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:32,320 black project 517 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:34,240 and there's a protocol for that they 518 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:35,440 certainly won't be 519 00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,600 releasing these videos via the pentagon 520 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:38,799 if this exactly 521 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:41,200 that shines a light on how this was 522 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:42,640 handled or not handled 523 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:44,559 appreciate the perspective i think we're 524 00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:46,160 kind of in the right place at the right 525 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:46,880 time for 526 00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:50,799 this stuff to be talked about especially 527 00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:52,880 confirmed and you know having pentagon 528 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:54,080 release 529 00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:56,160 assessments that these things are valid 530 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,679 and the pilots that are out there 531 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:59,360 whether it be commercial pilots or 532 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:01,360 military pilots especially when we have 533 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:02,880 the technology to 534 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:04,960 bring back video and eyewitness accounts 535 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,000 from guys that are flying 536 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:08,000 fighters whose brains work on a very 537 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,600 finely tuned level 538 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:11,600 when we bring this back to the carrier 539 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:14,080 as a story it's worth listening to 540 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,080 they've been confirmed as unidentified 541 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:18,160 or whatever the new term is uaps or 542 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,880 whatever 543 00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:20,080 it's not like we go out there looking 544 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:21,440 for this [\h__\h] but when you find 545 00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:22,160 something 546 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:24,559 it gets your attention yeah you stumble 547 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:26,320 across it 548 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:27,520 people always ask like what do you think 549 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,440 it was i dude i have no idea 550 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:31,039 i was at the right place at the right 551 00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:33,280 time i got the video i brought it back 552 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,880 and here we are thank you so much 553 00:18:40,630 --> 00:18:38,880 an honor and i admire the work that you 554 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:40,640 do and the stories that you're telling i 555 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,160 think it's the right time for it 556 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:44,000 platforms that you've been fortunate 557 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:45,840 enough to tell these stories on 558 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:48,160 and with the individuals is you can't 559 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:49,520 get any higher than that 560 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,960 people have been real kind to share 561 00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:52,400 their information with me it's just 562 00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:53,919 starting there's a lot going on 563 00:19:10,830 --> 00:18:55,280 we're going to be learning a lot we'll 564 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:10,840 soon i'll tell you that